Marriage Equality Foes: You’ are Correct, Fairness to Same Sex Couples Might Harm Your Marriage, But It’s Your Own Fault If It Does

ImageFor years, in thousands of same sex marriage debates which I have participated,   those opposing marriage equality have claimed that if it was made legal, harm would be done to opposite sex marriages.  There was nothing about their argument that seemed the least bit logical, so I fought back vehemently with all the rational thought I could muster against, what to me, was a purely irrational concept.

I missed something.  I should have seen it.  It parallels another argument anti-gays have made for years, long before the marriage equality issue was even on the table.  They would argue that “homosexuality was unhealthy.”  They would point to the fact that LGBT people seemed to suffer from higher levels of depression, suicide, and alcoholism.  LGBT people were likely to die younger.  Their observations were not fallacies.  LGBT people were, and are, susceptible to those problems.  It was the premise that homosexuality itself caused those problems that was erroneous.

Clearly, the life threatening issues LGBT people face have everything to do with how they are treated by society, and the people they know.  It is the overt external pressure for people to be what they aren’t, and it is the deep seated pervasive beliefs of inferiority that bombard LGBT people every day.  It is homophobia, that not only erodes the self esteem of LGBT people, it prevents participation in the societal structures that have proven healthy for heteronormative people:  Marriage, families and support by intimates, that have societal acceptance and honor, create mentally and emotionally healthy environments in which modern humans thrive.

It is not the “homosexuality” that kills. It is the homophobia.  It is not a coincidence that the same people who argue against homosexuality are also the source of that homophobia which causes the effect they triumph.  Their argument is true because they make it true.

Now, they are trying to make their perceived harm from marriage equality true as well.  In Oklahoma, state lawmaker Rep. Mike Turner (R-Edmond), is proposing a bill to cease marriage all together in the state.  He maintains that he is staying within the principle of equality and follows the will of the people to prevent same-sex marriages from happening in Oklahoma while living up to principles in the U.S. Constitution.  He’s right.  It would maintain those criteria.

I have come to attempt to understand the impulses of the anti-gay crowd by observing knee-jerk reactions of my young sons.  When Trestin Meacham decided to starve himself in protest of same sex marriages in Utah, I saw a parallel.  I see a similar impetus here.  My son, Jesse, has what can be called “a short fuse”.  It is characteristic of many in his biological family, and it is made even more pronounced in Jesse due to his exposure to methamphetamine in the womb.

When he has a conflict with someone, he often wants to take what he perceives as justice into his own hands.  Of all the calls I have gotten to deal with a problem at school, the vast majority started in a situation where he was potentially the wronged party.  I have conversations with him:

“Ok, Pal, you have to think this out?  What would have happened if you took this to a teacher and a reasonable answer could have been worked out?”

  “I wouldn’t have acted out and gotten in trouble.”

   “Right.  Who would have had the tougher time?”

   “They would have.”

    “Who was the one in trouble by doing it your way?”


“What do you think of that?”

“It’s warped.”

So I need to ask Mr. Turner:  “Who will be the one in trouble by doing it your way?”

Answer:  You.  You are doing what my grandmother would call “cutting off your nose to spite your face.”

Ignoring the bureaucratic mess that will ensue, it boggles my mind how completely gutting a state’s family law and protections for children will help anyone.  It also calls into question the “traditional marriage” advocates claims to care about the importance of marriage in society.  This action says that its importance is expendable before the need to win.

To all the anti-gays I have argued with over the years, here is my message: “Yes, I was wrong in all those arguments.  I am not sorry for arguing for marriage equality.  I was then, and still am, right about that.  I am still right about its justice and that it holds the highest of ethics and moral principles to support it.

What I am sorry for is missing the obvious.  I am sorry that I did not point out that there is a factor that WOULD cause harm to your marriages should same sex marriage become legal: you.  To my credit, I honestly did not believe that you would take, or consider taking, actions that make your concerns a self-fulfilling prophesy.  I thought better of you than you appear now to be.”

Mr. Turner is saying on your behalf, “If we can’t have it exclusively, then we will see to it that no one has it.”  I did not see that coming.

It won’t be the same sex couples, our families, our loves, our lives or our legal protections that will harm your marriages, it will be your destructive initiatives like this one.   The possible silver lining here would be the possibility that opposite sex couples affected may stop and reflect on what being prevented from marrying feels like.

Be that as it may, it is apparent that you intend to “win”, no matter who actually loses, even if that includes families like your own.

To quote my son Jesse, “That’s warped.”

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7 Responses to Marriage Equality Foes: You’ are Correct, Fairness to Same Sex Couples Might Harm Your Marriage, But It’s Your Own Fault If It Does

  1. Cheryel Lemley-McRoy says:

    All the lame arguments conservative Christians make against LGBQT are a cover for their true convictions. They are convinced that God condemns homosexuality and that if they come out on the side of equality, God will condemn them, also. If we can show them that science is on the side of LGBQT, and doesn’t contradict what the Bible originally said, they will have to abandon their arguments.

  2. Michael Ejercito says:

    This begs a very important question.

    Why did not anyone from the time of the Reformation, the Enlightenment, the American Revolution, or the American Civil War ever figure out that two people of one sex can be married to each other? If it is so obvious, why did it not occur to them?

    Actually, in 1852 a legal scholar did consider the question of why there could not be “marriafge between two persons of one sex”.

    Note that in 1852, the concept of sexual orientation did not exist, so we know that marriage was not invented for the purpose of oppressing homosexuals.

    • Begging the question is a form of fallacy, poor reasoning.

    • vlbrown says:

      “Note that in 1852, the concept of sexual orientation did not exist,” – Seriously??? No. But thanks for the laugh.

      “we know that marriage was not invented for the purpose of oppressing homosexuals.” Yeah, we knew that already. Next contestant please!

  3. I love the point you raised about how, according to this lawmaker, marriage is expendable–that what matters is “winning”. I am also reminded of a knee-jerk reaction you see in children, which you alluded to: the temper tantrum of “if I can’t have it, no one can!”

  4. Pax says:

    I live in Canada where, as you know, we’ve had marriage equality for a time now and you know what, made no difference to anyone’s marriage except the people who were forbidden this equality to begin with. My ex is involved in gay theatre and what we’ve been noticing, if someone needs to have a difference underlined, is that there seems to be less need of it now. The GBLTQ community are becoming people with all the basic human rights the rest of us have taken for granted.Who’d have guessed, she asks sarcastically.

    I do wonder if there will be a decrease in women like me who were used to show a “normal” heterosexual front for men who grew up before Stonewall, hopefully it will for the good of everyone involved and I take great exception to anyone who fights marriage equality because in their ignorance they hurt so many people. Mike Turner is the poster child for punitive ignorance.

  5. “Their argument is true because they make it true.” Absolutely.

    Great post!

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